In this episode, Soren interviews Xalavier Nelson, founder of Strange Scaffold and best known for his work on El Paso Elsewhere, Clickholding, and An Airport for Aliens Currently Run by Dogs. They discuss why he drew review screenshots using MS Paint, whether you should do the hard thing when making a game, and what’s a good price for eyeballs. This episode was recorded on March 9, 2026 and was engineered by Michael Hermes.

Games discussed: Shenmue, Civilization IV, Secret of Monkey Island, Geometry Wars, All Hail the Spider God, Screw You Bear Dad, Slayer Shock, An Airport for Aliens Currently Run by Dogs, Truck-kun is Supporting Me from Another World?!, Life Eater, Space Warlord Organ Trading Simulator, Mr. Bucket Told Me To, Offworld Trading Company, Star Control, I Am Your Beast, Space Warlord Baby Trading Simulator