In this episode, Soren interviews Seth Sivak, best known as the co-founder and CEO of Proletariat, makers of World Zombination and Spellbreak. They discuss how he invited hover doobers, the many times Proletariat almost went out of business, and whether free-to-play still makes sense. This episode was recorded on September 13, 2025, and was engineered by Michael Hermes.

Games discussed: Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Unreal Tournament, Where in the World is Carmen San Diego?, Half-Life, Gears of War, Wii Sports, Guitar Hero, Cafe World, Frontierville, Mafia Wars, Adventure World, Dragon Age Legends, FarmVille, CityVille, World Zombination, Clash of Clans, Streamline, Pokemon Go, DayZ, PUBG: Battlegrounds, Speakbreak, DOTA 2, Civilization IV, Apex Legends, World of Warcraft

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