{"id":90,"date":"2008-05-05T01:26:05","date_gmt":"2008-05-05T08:26:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/?p=90"},"modified":"2011-11-21T12:18:00","modified_gmt":"2011-11-21T19:18:00","slug":"ancient-strategy-games","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/ancient-strategy-games\/","title":{"rendered":"Ancient Strategy Games"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Games journalist Troy S. Goodfellow just completed a very comprehensive retrospective on <a href=\"http:\/\/flashofsteel.com\/index.php\/2008\/03\/10\/a-history-of-the-ancients-game\/\">strategy games based in the ancient era<\/a>. The scope is great as it extends all the way from <a href=\"http:\/\/flashofsteel.com\/index.php\/2008\/03\/12\/legionnaire-1982\/\">Chris Crawford&#8217;s <em>Legionnaire<\/em> (1982)<\/a> to <a href=\"http:\/\/flashofsteel.com\/index.php\/2008\/04\/28\/rome-total-war-2004\/\">Creative Assembly&#8217;s <em>Rome: Total War<\/em> (2004)<\/a>. (It&#8217;s telling, of course, that the first title belongs to a person and the last title to a company.) These are <em>extensive <\/em>pieces from a consistent point-of-view, including interviews with some of the older developers &#8211; exactly the type of series which would have been impossible to write before the Internet.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a good sample from the entry on <a href=\"http:\/\/flashofsteel.com\/index.php\/2008\/04\/15\/legion-2002\/\">Slitherine&#8217;s <em>Legion<\/em> (2002)<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Most gamers are familiar with the uncanny valley &#8211; the idea that as photorealism and CGI get more convincing the more the human mind focuses on what is \u201coff\u201d about the animation. Strategy gaming has an uncanny valley, too. If one part of a system is persuasive, then it gets more difficult to accept generalizations in the other parts. Games can cross this valley, but they need to distract the user either with visuals or descriptive text &#8211; just enough to cover up the sleight of hand. By making the battle engine so compelling and period appropriate, Slitherine couldn\u2019t help but draw attention to the cookie cutter cities, the weird unit recruitment system and how uninspired the strategic map looked most of the time. Then, given a chance to cut loose with a 3D battle engine in <em>Legion: Arena<\/em>, they stick on a really lame role playing segment where you level up troops and spend \u201cfame points\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>If I had to choose the hardest thing in game design, it would probably be the decision about what and when to abstract. There is always a temptation for historical themed games to push hard on the realism on the stuff that designers are interested in and to punt the rest. Too much abstraction, of course, gets in the way of what Bruce Geryk has dubbed \u201ctouching history\u201d &#8211; the reason why so many people are drawn to these games in the first place. Being more of a strategic than tactical mind, I think I\u2019d prefer it if the battles were more general than the big picture stuff, but the trick is finding a nice balance somewhere in there.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>We certainly ran into this problem quite a bit in the <em>Civ<\/em> universe &#8211; trying to make sure that the level of detail is consistent across all of the sub-systems (technology, diplomacy, resources, etc). In general, the problematic system is combat as the design challenges tend to suggest greater complexity, especially when compared with other, more tactical turn-based wargames.<\/p>\n<p>For example, in the original <em>Civ<\/em>, Sid included Zone-of-Control rules lifted directly from hex-based games. They were an strange fit, both with <em>Civ<\/em>&#8216;s broad audience and an already over-taxed AI. The extra complexity was at odds with the rest of the game, which split an entire nations production into three simple values: food, productions, and trade. Eventually, ZoC&#8217;s were dropped from the series.<\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless, the simplified combat system has not been an overall success because &#8211; with infinite unit stacking and single city tiles &#8211; the game strongly encourages single-minded &#8220;island hopping&#8221; offensives, where the player concentrates their entire force on taking city A, then city B, then city C, and so on. The abstraction breaks down. Ultimately, <em>Civ<\/em> has succeeded over the years in spite of its combat system, not because of it. Overrunning knights with tanks is still enjoyable, of course, but the core fun of <em>Civ<\/em> comes from executing an over-arching strategy, not from the tactical military game.<\/p>\n<p>I believe that we solved some of the franchise&#8217;s stickier problems with <em>Civ4<\/em>, but &#8211; I regret to say &#8211; not this one&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Games journalist Troy S. Goodfellow just completed a very comprehensive retrospective on strategy games based in the ancient era. The scope is great as it extends all the way from Chris Crawford&#8217;s Legionnaire (1982) to Creative Assembly&#8217;s Rome: Total War &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/ancient-strategy-games\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[5,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-90","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-civ","category-games"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3EGlq-1s","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/90","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=90"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/90\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":385,"href":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/90\/revisions\/385"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=90"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=90"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.designer-notes.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=90"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}